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Celegorm by Gold-Seven Celegorm by Gold-Seven
A very fun commission already finished a while ago, for Amanda. Liquid watercolours on Canson paper, A5 size.

Celegorm is from J. R. R. Tolkien's Silmarillion.

Commission info: [link]

Hair colour blurb: Celegorm is frequently portrayed as blond, for his epithet "the fair". "Fair" in Tolkien's writings usually has nothing to do with hair colour but beauty. Because of the rather conspicuous juxtaposition with his younger brother Caranthir the dark, I go back and forth with his hair colour, though I usually draw him with very light brown hair. Hair length and colour were the commissioner's wishes in this one, and I was fine with both. And now can we please cut this?
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Lamastok Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014
This looks great :D Celegorm is not one of my favourite characters, but the more Tolkien the better. I generally imagine him with silver hair, but my french edition of the Silm translates "fair" as beautiful, so I guess there is always room for speculation.
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CuthalionSilver79 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013
Oh wow, he's so handsome (hence the 'fair')! Most art done on him he's blonde, so it's nice to see a difference ;)
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Exactly :)
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Eninaj27 Featured By Owner May 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Wunderschöne Arbeit mit Wasserfarben ♥ Hast echt ne krasse Gallery
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Ritiakaramne Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013
Oh, along with Righon, you paint my favourite... Knorrelben... ich mag knorrige elben
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Anharaggadh Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
I found this in HoME V:

"Then Celegorm arose amid the throng (p. 169). In QS this is followed by 'golden was his long hair'. In the Lay at this point (line 1844) Celegorm has 'gleaming hair'; his Old English name was Cynegrim Fœgerfeax ('Fair-hair'), IV. 213. The phrase was removed in The Silmarillion text on account of the dark hair of the Noldorin princes other than in 'the golden house of Finarfin' (see I. 44); but he remains 'Celegorm the fair' in The Silmarillion p. 60."

*Jaw drops* WOW..... I ..... I’m speachless.... Mind if I stare and drool? Didn’t think so :P You did a WONDERFUL, wonderful job on this! He looks so manly and sexy. Congrats on the wonderful picture! ;)
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Rouan26 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Beautiful!!! LOVE IT.
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NapoldeInLove Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013
I know the person who ultimately received the commission, and today I had the pleasure of seeing it in person. It's very interesting to see your watercolours up close, and the degree of control you have with both colour use and brush strokes. My own painting techniques are not yet up to snuff, but I've got a lot of years ahead of me to practice. You are an inspiration to me now, as much as you were when I first got into Tolkien's works about ten years ago. Thank you.
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ThaliaTook Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Well I was always going to draw him with silver hair and dark eyes, like his grandmother Miriel. For what that's worth.
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Miskatonika Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I love the detail on the collar :)
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JillDragon Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Regardless of what 'fair' is actually intended to mean, I prefer to picture him as blond because it helps to differentiate him visually from his three dark-haired brothers. *shrugs*

Still a very nice drawing though. :)
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Eldr-Fire Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
What a cool picture! I love your style. :D
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EmeraldKeefe Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012
But I remember reading somewhere that Tolkien intended to give him 'gleaming, golden hair' at some point, and redheads do have the gene for blonde in their genetics, and his paternal grandmother had silver hair so he could've gotten it from that...
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EmeraldKeefe Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012
This is a gorgeous picture! Well done!
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AnnaTaure Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012
Given that his parents were, depending on the interpretation, both dark-haired, or one dark-haired and one redhead, being blond seems a bit of an impossibility, even if genetics may be altered by magic in Tolkien's universe.
I like the expression you gave him. He looks ready to disagree with whoever is speaking, or to start a fight. Fitting.
It may be just my imagination, but I think he looks a bit like French pilot Jean Mermoz, wavy black hair included...
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flyingfish98 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2012
Good portrait - perhaps a little harsher in expression and more austere in his clothing than I would have imagined him.... Celegorm definitely had a high opinion of himself.
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WARORK Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012
I've always really liked the way you can craft feanor's sons' features to give them the resemblance to their father...wonderfully created! :D
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noleme Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012
*clears throat apologetically* I'm with ~zeroatthebone on the 'fairfax' matter (I thought all Amanyar were fair-skinned, so unless Celegorm's was particularly luminescent... :giggle: ) Also, I think I recall debating the Hair Issue (big thing in Tolkien fandom... always handy for me to remember certain quotes :D ) somewhere, and coming across a quote in the Lay of Leithian that has Celegorm with 'flaming hair'. I'm a supporter of fair-haired Celegorm all the way, my mental image for him is your portrayal of him in Nargothrond (that collab thingy), and -erm- the chibi drawing you did of the 7. :ashamed: Still, let people like what they like; and good job on this one - great to see you still drawing Tolkienverse. ^ ^
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flyingfish98 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012
I think you'll find it's 'flaming eyes' (and gleaming hair). I must admit I always interpreted 'fair' as 'beautiful / attractive' when it came to Celegorm, rather than a comment on colouration.
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noleme Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2012
Line 1915 in the online version says flaming hair as well as flaming eyes earlier. So unless it's a typo or something...

I don't have a problem with people portraying Celegorm dark-haired, as I hope is obvious, but in my mind's eye he'll always be fair-haired.
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flyingfish98 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2012
Odd, I haven't seen the online version, so rechecked my hard copy. It's midway through line 1841 that the sentence starts:
But up there starts
amid the throng, and loudly cries
for hearing, one with flaming eyes,
proud Celegorm with gleaming hair
and shining sword.

Line 1915 contains Edrahil's speech in my copy, so I dunno........

And apologies; my comment re the interpretation of 'fair' was general, rather than specifically directed at you, and should have been placed in my other post. ;)
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noleme Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2012
Well, it may be that the online version contains a typo - I don't own HoME 3 as of yet. :shrug:
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Zireael07 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
This is amazing!
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insert-pseudonym Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012
I officially love you now. I've always held the belief that he was not blond for that same reason, "fair" always denotes beauty in Tolkien's writings, not hair color. If he had gold hair Tolkien would have said so explicitly. Plus, he has no blonds in his family, for Pete's sake! A red/brown haired woman and a dark haired man produced a blond child? PFFFF XD

Lovely portrait besides! I love your work, you're one of my two favourite artists who draw Tolkien.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Don't say that. Somehow, Eärendil and Elwing were able to generate all-dark offspring. ;)
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emmiko28 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013
elrond and celebrian also.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Well yes, but Elrond is dark-haired, that would be logical even by the standards of human genetics! ;)
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emmiko28 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013
true; but elwing is also. earendil is bright. :)
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
I wish I knew why, but I'm under the impression that Dior and Elwing were both silver-haired like Thingol. I know I found it somewhere, but can't remember where.
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emmiko28 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013
really!? that's interesting; i must admit that i took it for granted that they both are dark of hair; being melian and luthien's descendants and all. plus elrond and his childern being described as being very alike to luthien. the likeness of luthien and all that jazz.

i only remember that both dior an elwing were described as lovely and beautiful; elwing was said to be as beautiful as luthien herself ... the fairest of the women save luthien or somethin' like that. and dior was named dior the beautiful.

though, they both were titled the fair; but i think that it refers to their beauty, not hair. i could be wrong.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
"Fair" usually has nothing to do with hair colour, no. I wish I knew where I had it from. I usually take great pains to adhere to Tolkien's writings in all matters, and something as outlandish as silver wouldn't have crossed my mind unless I'd read it somewhere.
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emmiko28 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012
no way ... ehm ... ugh ... aaa ... well, it is a great piece of artwork; no doubt there. but ... i'm shocked ... its just that ... this isn't celegorm the fair. in my opinion, of course. he so has long golden hair in my mind; in fact, i ardently subscribe to that notion.

*so shocked*
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heidinanookie Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
lol, als ich den Titel zum Bild gelesen hab, hab ich mir genau dieselbe Frage zu "fair" gestellt, die du in deinem Kommentar beantwortet hast!
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NamoraMalfoy Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Student Writer
Hey, is that Sherlock in a other life? ;)
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Toradh Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Jaaa, Haarfarbendiskussionen! :D
Ich kann mir auch nicht so richtig vorstellen, wie Celegorm blond sein will (auch wenn das rezessiv vererbt wird…), aber es ist so eine schöne Gelegenheit, sich das Leben leicht zu machen… wenn einer von 7 blond ist, kann man sie besser unterscheiden :D.

Aber viel interessanter finde ich eh gerade das Hemd. Ich liebe es, wenn die dicken dunklen Farbkleckse zum Bildrand hin auslaufen, und mit der goldenen Borte hast du dich selbst übertroffen :3.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Das fand ich hier auch richtig gut! :)
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Elaini-the-Mystic Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012
Nerdanel's hair was red and Míriel's hair was silver. Golden or blonde hair, however, was described to be unique for Noldor, because only the house of Finarfin had it. For that reason this is why I've seen Celegorn rather like this. :)
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emmiko28 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012
Tolkien described Nerdanel as being brown haired and having a ruddy complexion; it was only said that Nerdanel's kin were red-haired. Idril Celebrindal was golden-haired (Earendil also) and she was Fingolfin's grandaughter; there is a precedent for disqualifying the notion that, among the descendants of Finwe, only the House of Finarfin were golden-haired. Glorfindel was a golden-haired Noldo, and, I am sure, many other of the Noldor were also.
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Elaini-the-Mystic Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012
True - but it's also being assumed that the golden hair came from heritage of Vanyar - which has led to believing that Glorfindel has Vanyarin heritage. Could be that he's a son of Findis or Irimë, Finwë's daughters with Indis.
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emmiko28 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012
Could be; of Findis we know (only) that she went with her mother, after Finwe's death, to dwell with the Vanyar; and Lalwen went into Exile because she adored Fingolfin. But the fact remains, Finarfin and his family were not the only golden haired Noldor, neither they were the only golden-haired Finweans.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
If I draw him with light hair, I tend to give him light brown or silvery, for precisely that reason :)
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LisaGorska Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012
are the eyes retouched in photoshop? they seem to be shining unnaturally (i mean that in a good way).

swirly swirls are swirly. :love:
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
No, that's a drop of gouache. :)
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LisaGorska Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2012
so they shine in real life, too?
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*is happy*
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Qitian Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Amusingly, I don't find this one fair in any sense of the word (even the third, modern sense XD) -- his eyes are way to close together for my taste. He reminds me of someone, but as usual, I can't put a name to the face. At any rate, it's a real person whom I don't find beautiful, either.
But de gustibus, and so on! Artistically, he's quite lovely. And I am strangely delighted by the little "windows" in his garments over the shoulder...
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Maybe we can just agree he has light skin? :D

I usually don't draw Celegorm as very beautiful, no. In part because of his character (yes, I'm prejudiced), and in part, maybe, because I've seen too many bare-chested, silver-haired Manga Celegorm bishounen.
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Qitian Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hmm. Not sure that wouldn't rather be "pale" than "fair". Whatever! :D

I've seen too many bare-chested, silver-haired Manga Celegorm bishounen.

Bwahahah! Yes, I assume that would put you off "pretty" Celegorms (though shouldn't it also put you off pretty Maedhrosses (nice plural, self) or Fingons or whoevers? Or is Celegorm just a particular favourite of the Manga-ish crowd?)...
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I think it was one Celegorm that did me permanent damage.

Add the fact that I'm very biased against bad guys who are depicted as bishies. Maedhros being extraordinarily handsome is even undebatable canon. :D But all those Mandosses, Morgoths, or Saurons in tight-fitting leather pants and bare chests give me the willies. And no, please not *their* willies.
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Qitian Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
But all those Mandosses, Morgoths, or Saurons in tight-fitting leather pants and bare chests give me the willies. And no, please not *their* willies.

MENTAL IMAGES I DIDN'T NEEEEED!

Seriously though, it seems I'm blessed - I can't recall ever having seen any of those, so at the very least they didn't do any lasting damage! :D
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah... I've started to unwatch a few Tolkien groups. O_o
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