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The Hobbit. Jacksonised or: Pimp my Dwarf!

Journal Entry: Sat Dec 24, 2011, 2:56 AM
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As I read the Hobbit to my son, as Smaug lies buried under the waters of the Long Lake and as Elves, Dwarves, Men and Orcs are drawn to the Lonely Mountain by greed, I stumble over promo photos of the Hobbit www.herr-der-ringe-film.de/v3/… and am reduced to disbelief.


Of course, I should have known. The target audience are the "Lotr" fans, the ones who have never read the books (probably tried, but gave up after "Concerning Hobbits"), who can't even be bothered to spell out the title of what they call their favourite book (or movie), who whooped with glee when Legolas surfed down the stairs of Helm's Deep on a shield or when Viggo, Orly and that alcoholic of a Dwarf kung-fu'd their way towards Théoden, and whom Jackson expects to be clamouring for more of the same in The Hobbit. He couldn't have made it a children's movie, no, of course not.

Thus, those lovable, squabbling Dwarves, who have only bread knives (which they lose soon enough after their encounter with the Orcs) and bows and arrows (which they waste shooting after black deer in Mirkwood), are portrayed as literally armed to the teeth. What do they need a burglar for? What do they need Bard for? They can just walk into the Lonely Mountain and bash Smaug on the head with that armoury of theirs, and all his jewel-encrusted armour won't avail him anything.

They don't even look like dwarves. They look as my first RPG game master always imagined them- heavily armed and armoured, grim creatures. Those are D&D Dwarves. They have nothing to do with Thorin and Company.

And Kili? I can already see the slash fic that'll be written about him. Screwing Fili at the Troll cave, in Rivendell (probably as a threesome with Elrond), and of course all the lovely bondage they'll be having with Legolas in the Elven-King's halls - whenever he can spare a moment between washing and conditionering his hair! Expecting the first fanfics in... less than three hours! Hey, those things are quickly written. And the fanart's going to beat Haldir.

Consider this: In the Lord of the Rings, Jackson gave us Frodo, Gandalf, Galadriel, Gollum, and a good handful of other characters exactly as we'd all seen them from the illustrators that had given us Tolkien illustrations for more than half a century. And we loved him for it. And he was confident enough in this to still give them to us like that, and not say, "Everyone sees Gandalf with a blue hat, long grey cloak, long beard and staff! Hey, I'll give him dreads, a full-plate armour and a shaven chin, just to prove how imaginative I am!"

But now he's gone and done exactly that.

Sorry, PJ... but NO. Leave a good book alone, and stay WAY clear of all that disgusting fan service.

I'm sure he'll have moments of greatness in between there, even moments of grandeur as he managed to put into the Lord of The Rings. I'll probably enjoy parts of the movie. I do love the Lord of the Rings movies (a few well-planned toilet breaks at strategic points in The Two Towers help), and when I saw the promo pictures for the Lord of the Rings movies over ten years ago, I was absolutely crazy with enthusiasm. So this is not a routine exercise in book-to-movie bashing.

I wonder what they'll do with the movie title in German. The book is known here as "Der Kleine Hobbit" (The Little Hobbit), and that will definitely not fit for the movie...

PS: Everyone who said that it was necessary to make the movie darker and the Dwarves less Disney please explain Nori and Ori to me. Especially Nori's hair...do. :O_o: www.herr-der-ringe-film.de/v3/…


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:iconpendragonmagicfairy:
PendragonMagicFairy Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I wasn't disappointed at all! Because I thought the performance made up greatly for the looks of the dwarfs, 
especially Richard Armitage played his role great (Thorin)!

As for Thorins beard, they gave a explanation for that, in the movie when Erebor isn't taken yet, 
Thorin has quite a beard for such a young dwarf. But when smaug came it was burned of, and in remembrance of the lost dwarves of Erebor, he keeps it short.
And when he has the kingdom back, he will let it grow long once again. (although it will never happen:()

But I agree with you that especially Kili could have been a hell lot more dwarfish!
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movieman410 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i think they just made the dwarves like that to better connect them to the lord of the rings dwarves hell i thought they were awesome especially Richard Armitage as Thorin
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noleme Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013
So, I came back here just to fave this journal, as I recalled it several days ago when I saw the movie. While it was not as horrific as I half-expected, I wasn't exactly jumping up and down in excitement either (though having written a long review allowed me to let off some steam). I'm glad to read someone else feels that way. ^_^
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
See, I don't eve have to write a new review - this year-old journal sums it all up exactly. I'm rather sad at how accurate it was.
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Niphredill Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012
Hm. Sorry for jumping back to such an old journal, but....ever since I read this a year ago, I was dreading the Hobbit film. I didn't actually want to go to see it, because I had made myself believe it would be awful, what with all thee changes in just the character-designs. Later, when I learned it wouldn't be just one, but THREE full-length films, I was disgusted. 'How the blazes can anyone stretch a relatively short children's book into three 2-hour films?!' I thought.
But...I, friends persuaded me, so I went and saw the film and I was very very pleasantly surprised. No, it is not a children's film at all. It is rather naturalistic and the dwarves are definitely NOT the fairytale dwarves described in the Hobbit...but then, I sat down and thought: 'These dwarves have been part of the last great dwarven kingdom on Middle-Earth. They were supposed to be brilliant smiths and craftsmen. They must have faced Orcs numerous times, when crossing the wilderness, when trying to reclaim Moria...All in all, they simply can't have survived without knowing how to fight. Because if not, 'Oakenshield' would make little sense, Thorin actually knowing how to use his newly acquired elvish blade would make little sense, their crossing under the Misty Mountains with no real harm would make little sense...simply put, it made sense, to me personally, that the dwarves knew how to fight. I also liked that i could tell them apart. I didn't really find Kili very, well, distracting or intrusive. He looked a bit too young, but Fili and Kili were, after all, supposed to be the youngest of the lot. But yes, being able to tell which one is Nori and which one is Gloin was indeed very nice for me.

There were several things that were nagging me horribly, though.
I did find it a bit ridiculous that Bilbo had little to no problem using the Sting on the first try and that he could take down that enormous hunk of Orc off of Thorin. And the orcs that seemed to have no ruddy problem to run around at high noon. What the heck?! I thought the only orcs that were able to do so were the Uruk-Hai, who were cross-bred with wildlings! It made no sense!
But otherwise, I found the film really lovely. It was a very very pleasant surprise.
But I do have this strange mechanism where I can separate how I enjoy a book and how I enjoy the film that was based on it.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Strange that you should drag this one up - I was just reminded of it too. I saw the Hobbit the day before yesterday, and unfortunately, I have nothing to add to that journal that I wrote a year ago, based on the promo shots. They were pretty accurate. :(
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StainedGlassMasque Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2012
WHAT has he DONE to the DWARVES!?

I was so terribly excited for this movie, since I am a fan of how The Lord of the Rings all turned out - a fair adaption, even though there was shield surfing (which I kinda thought was cool, aha) and much was left out. But I hadn't seen any previews for it - I had no clue about how anything was going to be til just now, and I feel sick to my stomach. This is just wrong! Granted, I only just recently finished reading The Hobbit for the first time, but I grew up watching the 1977 animated movie; I can't picture Thorin & Company any other way. One of them is too pretty, and I certainly don't see them decked out to beat me to death until it comes time to defend the Smog-less Lonely Mountain from the Men, Elves, and Goblins. ("The enemy of my enemy is my friend," much?)

And I understand that he's younger in The Hobbit than in Lord of the Rings, but Bilbo doesn't look quite right, either...

I can no longer tell if I'm excited or terrified.

On a side note: OH MI GAWD, BILLY CONNOLLY IS GONNA BE IN IT!!!!!1!11!!!ONE
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
After excessively watching "Sherlock", I fear I won't be able to see Bilbo in Martin Freeman anymore...
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tzigany Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2012  Student General Artist
Expecting the first fanfics in... less than three hours! Hey, those things are quickly written. And the fanart's going to beat Haldir.

A-actually, I think a Thorin/Bilbo fanfiction went out on Tumblr six months ago.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I'm scared now...
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tzigany Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2012  Student General Artist
I-I'm sorry. /messenger guilt
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Windfeder Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012
Hm. The new dwarfs look interesting in my eyes. :-) Imagine you have to portray 11 (was there 11 of them?) dwarfs. 11 little men with long beards ... that would be so boring, they will look all the same - so I thouht. Because of that I like the Jackson-Version of them. Every character is something special. Ok, Kili is much too attractive for a dwarf ... but the rest of them - interesting. And they can sing so good!
I am looking forward to the film.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Imagine you have to portray 11 (was there 11 of them?) dwarfs. 11 little men with long beards ... that would be so !boring, they will look all the same - so I thouht."

Jackson managed to portray dozens of Elves as tall, handsome, and eternally youthful (and they ALL had the same hair!) Okay, he got one slightly overweight one. :D
/Haldir-bashing

So, I just wonder what got into him between the Trilogy and the Hobbit. He was perfectly fine to stick to general viewing expectations in the Lord of the Rings. To me, it seems like a very unfortunate mix of fan-service and fame going to your head if you suddenly go all creative with Dwarves that everyone, always, has imagined as 13 little men with beards.
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Lonemtnwolf Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You're inspiring! :O) Glad I stumbled across your work. It's glorious!
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you! ;)
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Lonemtnwolf Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You're very welcome!
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haius Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2012  Hobbyist
Also, slightly off-topic, but have you perchance seen the HBO Game of Thrones TV series? I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on that.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
*sent too soon*

..., but overall, I really liked it. There were characters who came incredibly close to how I saw them, like Bran, Cersei, Jaime, Littlefinger (!), Robert, and overall, I loved how it was done. It kindled within me a sudden resurge of love for Song of Ice and Fire - and then Dance with Dragons came along and killed all the love instantly, remorselessly, and irrefutably. :/
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haius Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2012  Hobbyist
I heard that Dance with Dragons was good.... Ugh, I bet he kills off someone wonderful. I just know it. >_<
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Sort of. Somehow, dead people hardly ever stay dead these days. Another thing that really peeves me off with his book of late.
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haius Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2012  Hobbyist
Eek. Yes, that is a bit offputting. When you build a reputation for killing people off and then start chickening out... *sigh*
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Of course, they way in which he brings them back is usually rather unsavoury (Un-Cat, the Lightning Lord), but still...
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haius Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2012  Hobbyist
Well, even if they come back in a bad way, it's still like in a James Bond movie where it turns out the supervillain is actually (GASP) Blofeld, the supervillain who was killed off in the previous movie! Or the person who's been sending threatening letters to the soap-opera heroine is (GASP) her boyfriend's ex, who everyone thought was killed in a car accident last season, which left her horribly disfigured and out of her mind with vengeance! And so on. It gives a comic book feel.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
It does, yes. :/
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I *really* liked it. I was slightly sad that all the characters were aged up (so that Dany could have steaming sex with Drogo...) :shifty:
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haius Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2012  Hobbyist
Well, it is HBO... :XD:
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haius Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2012  Hobbyist
I must confess, I was shocked at the promo photos because, well, I never thought I'd think a dwarf was hot. DX But that's exactly why: because they don't really look like dwarves. I also confess I'm excited for the film. Can one like the books and the movies at once? When I first attempted to read the Hobbit in at age 10, I admit I never made it past the "Concerning Hobbits" bit at the beginning. I also admit that it was the Fellowship movie, when I was 14, that caught my imagination and made me go back and read the Hobbit. I didn't understand why I'd got hung up at the start, then. I devoured that book like it was made of bacon. I will say, though, that I knew I would enjoy the movies more if I read the book after them, since the book is always better than the movie, so I waited until Return of the King had come out to read The Lord of the Rings, and contented myself in the mean time with the Hobbit many times over, the Appendices, and the Lost Tales. I suppose I'm hoping to recapture some of my excitement over Middle Earth when the film comes out. But it's a very good point: it was a light-hearted children's book, and this does not look like anything like that in film form. :/ Also, the very mention of such fanfics as that strikes ice into my heart. I like to pretend such things don't exist... even though I know they do. T_____T

Sorry for the textwall.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Haha, no problem :)

Of course, ten is a very tender age to get into the Lord of the Rings without guidance. ;) My mum read the books to me when I was even younger, BUT she abbreviated a good deal.
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haius Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2012  Hobbyist
Yes indeed. My dad read me The Old Man and the Sea, by Ernest Hemingway, when I was five or so, but parents somehow know how to make books interesting that would normally put children to sleep. XD
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Aliz-Seraphim Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012
Nori's hair do makes him look like he just walked out of an anime lol
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Or out of an asylum. :D
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Aliz-Seraphim Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2012
very true :D
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JillDragon Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I have to disagree with you on a few points there. Because the movie business is, in fact, a business, Peter Jackson needs to make a movie that will appeal to a wider audience including those who have only seen the LotR (ha!) movies or maybe even haven't had any exposure to anything Tolkien-related at all. So of course things are going to be changed from the book.

I'm a second-generation Tolkien geek who has read all the books and supplemental material several times over, but you know what? I wasn't too fussed by the changes and omissions in the LotR movies (so what if they didn't want to drag out the ending by adding the Scouring of the Shire?) and so far I haven't seen anything worth claiming that The Hobbit has been 'ZOMGRuinedForever!'. It also seems a bit judgemental to critisize the film before you've even seen it, or at least seen more than one short trailer. I'm not trying to be rude, but I just wish that people would be a bit more open-minded.

And yes, I do have some issues, like the fact that I think the costuming department went overboard trying to distinguish the dwarves (yes, Nori's starfish hair being one of those things) and to me Kili almost looks more like an elf than a dwarf. But I can live with those things if the movie is good. It might be better to just take the Hobbit for what it is - an adaption of Tolkien's work, not a slavish imitation.

P.S. Take it from a fanfiction writer, the slash fics will happen (actually they've probably existed long before the movie was conceived) no matter who they cast. Rule 34 and all that. If nothing else it'll give us something to laugh over, and who knows, there might actually be one or two that are actually good. ;)
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
It's even worse. The bashing was based solely on seeing the promo pics of the Dwarves. :D

I have to say that I do like the mood conveyed in the trailer, but the very obvious fan service that was simply not there in the casting and costume choices for the Lord of the Rings makes me rather apprehensive for the rest of it. As I said, I really liked the Lord of the Rings movies. Because I felt that most of the things that were changed there had to do with storytelling (I totally approve of no Scouring of the Shire). Whereas with this one, I feel that Jackson is suddenly taking himself far too important, when previously, he had been content standing behind a powerful book that didn't need any pimping.

(Not much pimping. *coughmumakcough*)
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JillDragon Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I think part of the problem is that PJ has less material to work with in the Hobbit than he does in LotR. The Hobbit is only 18 chapters long and rather episodic in nature with most of the large cast getting very little character developpment. Plus there's the whole fact that it was shoe-horned into the larger Middle Earth universe only after the fact - and it shows sometimes, to be honest. Yeah they've got the Appendices, but even so I think the directors had to do a lot more improvising and infering this time around which is something can't really be helped.
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Skuldier Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012
Hmm...this movie does look like they're too tough. I'm sure it will be a good movie, but the character portrayals probably won't be too true to the book. I would imagine them in less armor, kind of in traveling cloaks, that kind of thing. They're very bumbling characters. I really love the movies, but dislike when characters are totally butchered. Faramir is my best example from LotR. He's so nice in the books it's ridiculous, but they make him awful in the movie.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Absolutely. It's part of why I rarely watch The Two Towers. I jump straight to The Return of the King.
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Skuldier Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012
Yeah, I always cringe when it's Faramir time.
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Yosephyne Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Ich freu mich schon wahnsinnig auf die Verfilmung.♥
Meine Mutter hat mir "Der kleine Hobbit" vorgelesen, als ich 8 war und dann direkt danach "Herr der Ringe". Und gerade als sie den ersten Teil fertig vorgelesen hatte, kam der erste Film von PJ raus. Ich war damals begeistert und liebe die Filme immer noch, wenn mich auch manche Dinge stören. Fast alle Änderungen, die PJ an der Handlung oder den Figuren vorgenommen hat, funktionieren gut im Kontext des Filmes, aber womit ich wirklich ein Problem hatte war die Figur Film!Frodo. Im Film wirkte er so schwach und beinahe feige, während ich ihn im Buch ziemlich mutig fand...allein schon der Angriff an der Wetterspitze, da hat mich die Filmversion wirklich frustriert.
Der langen Rede kurzer Sinn, mir haben die Filme trotz allem wahnsinnig gut gefallen und ich finde, sie sind Tolkiens Welt wesentlich gerechter geworden, als man es von einer modernen Verfilmung erwarten würde, die ja immer auch das Massenpublikum ansprechen soll.
Ich habe deshalb natürlich auch hohe Erwartungen an PJs Verfilmung von "Der kleine Hobbit"...mir hat auch der Trailer gut gefallen (vor allem weil er nicht so extrem auf Action gemacht war), das Lied der Zwerge klingt toll, der Fetzen darauf abgestimmter Filmmusik klang auch prima und Martin Freeman kann ich mir gut als Bilbo vorstellen. Was die Zwerge betrifft...hm. Ich werde erstmal warten, wie sie sich im Film verhalten. So ein Trailer kann ja die Erwartungen an einen Film wahnsinnig manipulieren und Dinge anders darstellen, als sie im Film dann wirklich sind. Man wird sehen. :-)
Natürlich bin ich nicht so ein Hardcore-Fan wie du, aber ich liebe die Bücher ebenfalls und war mit den Filmen trotzdem sehr zufrieden. ;-)
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
"Der langen Rede kurzer Sinn, mir haben die Filme trotz allem wahnsinnig gut gefallen und ich finde, sie sind Tolkiens Welt wesentlich gerechter geworden, als man es von einer modernen Verfilmung erwarten würde, die ja immer auch das Massenpublikum ansprechen soll."

Das ist auch mein Enidruck, aber nach allem, was ich bisher vom Hobbit gesehen habe, ist es noch ne ganze Ecke mehr Mainstream-Geschmack und weniger Tolkien...
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Yosephyne Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Du musst dringend aufhören, mir Angst zu machen...vielleicht ist es ja nur der Trailer, der so wirkt. Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt.
Wobei mir z.B. das Lied der Zwerge sehr gut gefallen hat. Außerdem kriegt der Trailer seeehr viele Bonuspunkte allein dafür, dass er nicht mit dieser Art geschnitten ist, bei der die Szenenwechsel zum Ende hin immer schneller werden, um dir das Gefühl zu vermitteln, dass du es mit einem Actionfilm zu tun hast. Ein paar der Fernsehtrailer für Herr der Ringe waren nämlich so und es hatte mich damals ziemlich aufgeregt.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Das Lied der Zwerge fand ich auch toll. Ne Chance bekommt der Film bei mir sicher, aber ich bleibe skeptisch...
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Yosephyne Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Kann ich gut verstehen, man traut sich kaum, sich richtig zu freuen. Aber ich...kann nicht anders. xD
Besonders freue ich mich auf die Filmmusik. Howard Shore hat mit dem Soundtrack zu Herr der Ringe einen der besten Soundtracks geschaffen, die mir je untergekommen sind.
Und Martin Freeman scheint mir eine gute Wahl für Bilbo zu sein, genau so könnte man ihn sich vorstellen.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Ooooooooo, Howard Shore! Allein für den lohnt sich das. Zur Not mach ich einfach die Augen zu. Zweieinhalb Stunden lang. :D
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Yosephyne Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Und genießt nur die Musik.^^ Für Howard Shore würde sich das sogar lohnen. Dem trau ich aber sogar zu, einen durch seine Musik so zu beeinflussen, dass einem der Film ohnehin noch zehnmal besser vorkommt, als er eigentlich ist.
Der hat wahnsinnig dazu beigetragen, dass mir Peter Jacksons Filme so gut gefallen haben. Die meisten Leute unterschätzen, was für einen Einfluss Musik auf unsere Stimmung hat.♥
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Oh ja. Ohne John Williams wäre der erste Star Wars-Teil 1977 im Kino auf Nimmerwiedersehen abgesoffen. ;)
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AlysaTaladay Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I have mixed feelings on this. I'd been following the production videos on Facebook, which are impressive and exciting, and I have to say that there are things that I like about this take of Jackson's, in spite of the heavy artistic license he took with it (which I do rather agree with you on - they leave me wishing, just a little, that he would do Icewind Dale, as his work does seem to have a D&D feel to it. Lord knows, he could do that plenty of justice!). I felt that they needed to make up for taking away all of Gimli's battle glory in LOTR, and I am pleased to see the dwarves as more than comic relief. I like the seriousness of the film, though he did seem to overdo it a bit.

In the end, I will simply be happy if he sticks to the characters and story of the book, and does not go too far with the Elven fanservice, seeing as it is inevitable. I will forever see the characters just as Tolkein describes them, though, whatever Jackson does with them.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
"they leave me wishing, just a little, that he would do Icewind Dale, as his work does seem to have a D&D feel to it. Lord knows, he could do that plenty of justice!"

Yep - what he has now looks a lot like Bruenor and Co. Much more than Thorin and Co.
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wizardelfgirl Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2012
Unfortunately, one of the rules when making a movie based on a book is to cater to the interests and needs not only of those who have read the books, but to the general public, and releasing The Hobbit as a children's movie after releasing LOTR would thoroughly confuse those who haven't read any of the books. Likewise, having clumsy dwarves with bright, color-coded hoods and silly singing elves after how both races were portrayed in the LOTR movies would be too weird for most people, and likely the movie would flop at the box office (As for Nori and Ori, I think it's an attempt to keep some of the funny essence of the Hobbit dwarves, only instead of their behaviour it's in their faces and hairdos).

If The Hobbit had been released as a movie before LOTR I'm pretty sure the lighter tone could have been kept, as it is common for sequels to be darker than the first movie, but after the grim, darkish tone of the LOTR movies, The Hobbit's more playful tone would not be understood by the audience, I guess.

As for the slashy fanfics, yeah, I'm pretty sure there are already some out there.
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Gold-Seven Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Well, the dwarves are not *that* far away in the movie. Gimli mostly served as comic relief. :shifty:
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